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'On the 15th of February [1780], Sir George Saville moved that an account of all places with salaries, and all pensions payable at the exchequer or out of the privy purse, with a list of the persons holding them, should be laid before the house.

In making this motion, Sir George encountered a most violent opposition, and the debate was broken off by a sudden illness of the speaker.

Subsequently it was revived, and Lord North [the Prime Minister] then moved an amendment, restricting the account to such pensions only as were paid out of the exchequer, and excepting those paid out of the privy purse. This, however, gave such manifest dissatisfaction that the minister was obliged to qualify it by moving in addition, that the general amount of all pensions should be given, but without any specification of names, and without stating the sums paid, except in the case of those who were paid from the exchequer.

But even with this qualification, though ably supported by the minister himself in a long and argumentative speech, and by Wedderburn, the attorney-general, and Mr. Dundas, lord-advocate for Scotland, the amendment was only carried by a majority of two, the numbers being one 188 against 186. A similar motion was made in the upper house by Lord Howard of Effingham, but it was there negatived by 55 against 24.'

(From The History of England, Vol. III, Ch. XI, by Edward Henry Nolan, Edward Farr.)


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